The Parents’ Vote: Lisa Belkin Says…

I love Lisa Belkin for getting the issues on the table, the very public table, even if she can raise my hackles.  This time, she wrote a post titled The Parents Vote on her Motherlode blog at the New York Times.  In it, it is clear that she hasn’t met us.  She sums up us parents as voters this way:

Ask people with children what most shapes their worldview, and being a parent would likely be high on the list. And yet we don’t make our political decisions as “parents,” don’t base our vote on the candidates views of how to help families juggle life and work, don’t see parents as an interest group.

Uh, maybe we should email her a link to Moms Speak Up?  Or MOMocrats? Or Activistas? Or PunditMom?

She points out, as Moms Rising has been doing recently, that the three debates thus far have not included one single specifically work-family question. Seems to reinforce the premise that we parents don’t vote as parents, but rather as our other (ha!) selves. 

Belkin includes a gem of a resource in her blog: links to two one-hour conversations that rockstar women & family advocate Ellen Galinsky had with both Presidential campaigns.  Yowzah.  Listen to her talking with the Obama campign here and McCain here.  She summarizes the outcome like this:

Broadly summarized, Obama supports an expansion of the rights of working parents and the role of the Federal government in securing those rights and McCain supports making the case to business that such changes are in their interest.

Worth a read, me thinks, if you are on the fence or have some convincing to do in the coming weeks.  Do you vote as a parent, or as another being??  Do tell, because I definitely look at public policy through my parent lens these days.  How can I not?

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    9 REASONS YOU MIGHT BE VOTING FOR JOHN MCCAIN

    Sen. Obama’s a Socialist/Communist

    It’s an easy smear to accuse someone of being a Socialist/Communist.

    But where is this coming from and what does it mean? We Americans over 40 have a knee-jerk reaction to the words “Socialist” & “Communist”. Probably because we remember the days when the main enemy of the US was the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. We grew up learning that these words were evil.

    But the Cold War is over… It is 2008, not 1968.

    There are only 2 real Communist countries left, North Korea & Cuba. China & Vietnam have morphed into a Socialist/Managed Capitalism hybrid. So let’s agree that it might make sense to be open to rational thinking about how our Government spends OUR money without throwing labels like “socialism” in.

    Is it Socialist to expect actually VALUE on the money we pay in taxes to the government? Is it Socialist to expect the tax money to be used for decent health care like EVERY country in Europe and even Cuba? Is it socialist to expect our taxes to keep freeways repaired, water clean, airports safe, drugs safe, food safe and so forth? I don’t think so.

    McCain will put Joe-the-Plumber (common folk) ahead of the corporations? He’s doesn’t have a great track record in this area. See:

    http://www.mccainslobbyists.com/

    Reagan sold us all the idea that if we support and enhance big business, big business will create great WEALTH by not being interfered with by government. That wealth was supposed to trickle down to us. I know you probably revere Reagan. But his economics have brought disaster.

    It’s hard to make this socialist charge against Obama stick when the US Government, backed by a Republican President, just dropped about a trillion dollars into bailouts and buying bad debt. Is Bush a Socialist?

    Deregulation has been pushed by Republicans and lots of Democrats over the last 25 years. The Old Savings and Loan meltdown of the 1980’s & 1990’s and the current global economic catastrophe has deregulation written all over it.

    Total bill to taxpayers:

    1980’s-90’s S&L crisis (with John McCain right in the middle of it) $560 billion dollars.
    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac: $200 billion
    AIG bailout: $85 billion
    Mortgage bailout: $700+ billion

    TOTAL: 1.54+ TRILLION DOLLARS

    How good would out schools be with 1.5 trillion of support?
    How good would out medical care be with 1.5 trillion of support?
    Could we have helped the mentally ill Americans who sleep on the sidewalk all over America with some of that money?
    Could we have advanced clean non-fossil fuel energy technology with that money?

    These are the rewards of de-regulation and belief in the “trickle down’ economy.

    Let’s admit that we pay taxes and expect VALUE from our government. That means to keep wall street greed from hurting our economy and citizens. I think it’s fine to de-regulate the phone company, but maybe our banking and mortgage system needs a little supervision. What is really wrong with our government making sure that people can get medical care and not go bankrupt over a serious medical condition. How about government making sure that American children are well educated. Isn’t that a big priority? Would we NOT want government protecting our water supply, providing police, fire departments and so forth? The de-regulation myth is dead. We need a SMART government that serves us, the taxpayer, not the big corporations that have excessive influence in our government.

    Here, in plain language, is why we have a government:

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    So think about this ridiculous communist/socialist charge. Do you really think that Sen. Obama will seize private property and give it to the state?

    Here is the definition of Socialism:

    Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society.

    Think this through.

    Sen. Obama palls around with/is a Terrorist(s)

    If this belief is based on William Ayers, please consider these facts about other past domestic terrorists ( a phrase that didn’t exist back in the 1960s).

    Former IRA bomber Gerry Adams was welcomed at the White House as a peacemaker.
    Former PLO leader Yasser Arafat was too.
    Former Students for a Democratic Society member and Ayers friend Tom Hayden was elected to the California State Assembly.
    Former Black Panther Bobby Rush is a congressman representing Chicago. (From Chicago Sun-Times)

    This article from the Sun-Times offers a lot of detail:

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1215925,CST-NWS-ayers12.article

    Also this — with detailed footnotes:

    http://obamafactcheck.com/facts/10/william_ayers.shtml

    Please consider that Sen. Obama’s opponent is trying to use FEAR as a tactic. Do you think (and fear) the way people tell you to? Or do you look at the details (not the sound bytes) and make up your own mind?

    Sen. Obama is a Muslim /Arab/Satanist

    Listen to John McCain on the subject:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7R-s-71csY

    The campaign to brand Obama as a Muslim/Arab is denied by McCain and is the same kind of whisper campaign that attacked McCain in 2000, suggesting he had an illegitimate black daughter.

    Think back – Where do you get this idea from. Emails? Rumors? This kind of thing has a long dirty tradition in US politics:

    Opponents to Andrew Jackson claimed his wife was a whore. A popular song went: “Oh, Andy! Oh, Andy, How many men have you hanged in your life? How many weddings make a wife?”

    Thomas Jefferson’s opponents called him ‘A mean-spirited low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father’. Someone actually began a rumor that Jefferson was, in reality, already dead.

    Lincoln: One New York paper suggested that “Barnum should buy and exhibit him as a zoological curiosity”.

    A Charleston paper had this to say about Lincoln:

    “A horrid looking wretch is he, sooty and scoundrelly in aspect, a cross between the nutmeg dealer, the horse swapper, and the night man… He is a lank-sided Yankee of the uncomeliest visage, and of the dirtiest complexion.”

    I think Lincoln turned out okay, despite his looks and “complexion”.

    Think about it… Consider the source of these rumors.

    Christians can’t support a Democrat

    This video is worth watching:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAuYGPaAs2I

    Is it Christian to judge people by what they say, how they act and not by labels?

    Sen. Obama is not like me/us.

    If you look back at your family tree… Would everyone look like you? I have poor Irish, English, French, Austrian and who knows what else. Most didn’t speak English. Let’s say your daughter had a child with a black man (Like Sen. Obama’s mother did) Would you reject that child and say it is “different” or “strange”? This is America, a land of foreigners gathered together for freedom and ideas and opportunity.

    We need to “Drill-Baby-Drill”

    Listen to John McCain on offshore drilling.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_segkxmffw0&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJHHo47roQ

    The bottom line is that oil demand is growing, mainly due to China and India, and there is only so much oil. Thinking that drilling in Alaska will drop the price of oil is just naïve. What I’m saying is that this is a non issue — it has no real effect on our lives over the next 4 years. Using this issue to decide a President doesn’t make real sense.

    We can’t “surrender” in Iraq

    Before we talk about surrendering, can we talk about what VICTORY in Iraq looks like?

    Is it the end of all suicide bombings for a certain number of consecutive weeks/months? Is it when the legitimately elected government of Iraq asks us to leave?

    Isn’t this much more of a police action the last several years? How do you win a police action? What are we getting for our 1 trillion in tax money? Is the world a safer place because we occupy Iraq?

    Read this from the BBC:

    The outgoing commander of US troops in Iraq, Gen David Petraeus, has said that he will never declare victory there. In a BBC interview, Gen Petraeus said that recent security gains were “not irreversible” and that the US still faced a “long struggle”. When asked if US troops could withdraw from Iraqi cities by the middle of next year, he said that would be “doable”. He said he did not know that he would ever use the word “victory”: “This is not the sort of struggle where you take a hill, plant the flag and go home to a victory parade… it’s not war with a simple slogan.”

    Compare what Petraeus I saying with what Obama is saying — what is the difference really?

    Oh… And the MONEY. $9 BILLION a month. What are we getting for it?

    “The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has estimated the cost of “prosecuting” a war against Iraq at up to $9 billion per month, on top of an initial outlay of up to $13 billion for the deployment of troops to the Persian Gulf region.”

    http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aairaqwarcost.htm

    I vote for those who have been in the Military

    ABOUT MCCAIN: The son of an Admiral who was the son of a Admiral, McCain grew up in a family where war is natural. Those of you who have been in or near war know it is not a natural thing. It is a horrible, evil, unnatural thing.

    Millions of young people die in wars for old people’s ideology. My father was one. He died in his mid-twenties with a pregnant wife when his USAF plane slammed into a mountain in Japan in 1955. We can SAY that he died protecting America but he wasn’t. It’s just the truth.

    No country was threatening to invade the USA in 1955. He was there to resist Communist expansion in Asia. What does it matter now?

    The following is my main reason for note voting for McCain.

    John McCain has the classic high risk personality of a fighter jock. Those of you who know the fighter jock personality, please consider – is that the kind of temperament you want as President?

    Let’s look at his aviator career:

    Three crashes early in his career led Navy officials to question or fault his judgment.

    By Ralph Vartabedian and Richard A. Serrano, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers October 6, 2008

    John McCain was training in his AD-6 Skyraider on an overcast Texas morning in 1960 when he slammed into Corpus Christi Bay and sheared the skin off his plane’s wings. McCain recounted the accident decades later in his autobiography. “The engine quit while I was practicing landings,” he wrote. But an investigation board at the Naval Aviation Safety Center found no evidence of engine failure.

    The young McCain has often been described as undisciplined and fearless — a characterization McCain himself fostered in his autobiography.

    McCain, the son and grandson of admirals, had a privileged status in the Navy. He was invited to the captain’s cabin for dinner on the maiden voyage of the Enterprise in 1962, a perk other aviators and sailors attributed to his famous name, recalled Gene Furr, an enlisted man who shared an office and went on carrier deployments with McCain over three years.

    Southern Spain, around December 1961

    McCain was on a training mission when he flew low and ran into electrical wires. He brought his crippled Skyraider back to the Intrepid, dragging 10 feet of wire, sailors and aviators recalled.

    In his 1999 autobiography, “Faith of My Fathers,” McCain briefly recounts the incident, calling it the result of “daredevil clowning” and “flying too low.” McCain did not elaborate on what happened, and The Times could find no military records of the accident.

    When he struck the wires, McCain severed an oil line in his plane, said Carl Russ, a pilot in McCain’s squadron. McCain’s flight suit and the cockpit were soaked in oil, added Russ, who nonetheless said McCain was a good pilot.

    The next day, McCain went to the flight deck with his superior officers and some of the crew to inspect the damage. A gaggle of sailors surrounded the plane.

    Clark Sherwood, an enlistee responsible for hanging ordnance on the squadron’s planes, recalled standing on the deck with McCain. “I said, ‘You’re lucky to be alive.’ McCain said, ‘You bet your ass I am,’

    Cape Charles, Va., Nov. 28, 1965

    Over the Eastern Shore of Virginia, McCain descended below 7,000 feet on a landing approach in a T-2 trainer jet, according to accident records. He said he heard an explosion in his engine and lost power. He said he tried unsuccessfully to restart the engine.

    He spotted a local drag strip and considered trying to glide to a landing there but finally had to eject at 1,000 feet. The plane crashed in the woods. McCain escaped injury and was picked up by a farmer.

    In a report dated Jan. 18, 1966, the Naval Aviation Safety Center said it could not determine the cause of the accident or corroborate McCain’s account of an explosion in the engine. A close examination of the engine found “no discrepancies which would have caused or contributed to engine failure or malfunction.”

    The report found that McCain, then assigned to squadron VT-7 in Meridian, Miss., had made several errors: He failed to switch the plane’s power system to battery backup, which “seriously jeopardized his survival chances.” His idea of landing on the drag strip was “viewed with concern and is indicative of questionable emergency procedure.”

    Vietnam

    In Vietnam, McCain was on his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when a surface-to-air missile struck his A-4 attack jet. He was flying 3,000 feet above Hanoi.

    A then-secret report issued in 1967 by McCain’s squadron said the aviators had learned to stay at an altitude of 4,000 to 10,000 feet in heavy surface-to-air missile environments and look for approaching missiles.

    The man has a documented history of being a risk-taker, he’s impulsive, he has acted erratically again and again and again. Not the personality I want as a president. Not now.

    One last point:

    McCain has close ties to Georgia (the country). He wants them to be in NATO.

    From the Washington Post:

    A lobbying firm partly owned by McCain’s adviser, Randy Scheunemann, signed a $200,000 contract to continue providing strategic advice to the Georgian government in Washington.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/12/AR2008081202932.html

    With all our problems, do we need to use force to defend an geopolitical ideology in Eastern Europe? With McCain that is a very real possibility. Why on earth would we do that? That’s the same logic that took my father’s life.

    Please watch this from a top Republican:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2U63fXBlFo

    I can’t vote for someone who is for abortion

    This very well may be your reason for voting for McCain. I am also against abortion. But McCain changed his views to get nominated. Please watch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpGUiEWZDUI

    Here is the practical truth. Over 6 of the last 8 years avid Pro-Life Republicans have controlled the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court. If Republican politicians were actually going to reverse Roe v Wade, they had their chance. Let’s face it, Bush and the Republicans talked the talk but didn’t walk the walk. They told you the would, so you would vote for them, because they know the issue is important to you.

    The right wing will not control Congress again in your lifetime. That’s a fact. Electing McCain will NOT get Roe v Wade overturned. That’s what Bush promised you. He never even tried. The moment has passed. Consider using another criteria (economy, for example) to choose the next President.

    +++++

    One last thing:

    McCain ends every speech with the words “fight, fight, fight, fight”.

    What are we fighting?

    This isn’t a football game. It’s people’s lives. It’s our kids and grandkids future.

    We have been fighting each other too long.

    Let’s stop fighting and start working together. It’s tough out there.

    One more video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI&feature=rec-fresh

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